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		By: Kai		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-23496&quot;&gt;Kai&lt;/a&gt;.

**We weren&#039;t meant to drink cow&#039;s milk; a baby calf was.

Sorry, forgot to check over my comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-23496">Kai</a>.</p>
<p>**We weren&#8217;t meant to drink cow&#8217;s milk; a baby calf was.</p>
<p>Sorry, forgot to check over my comment.</p>
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		By: Kai		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. People do get upset when they learn the truth, don&#039;t they? I&#039;m sorry that cow&#039;s milk was meant for it&#039;s young, not people! Might as well breast feed your child all their life instead of giving them that crap.

I completely agree with you Prof Keith. I can&#039;t believe people are looking for the cold, straight facts and are bitching about it! They are the ones who searched it up; you didn&#039;t force the information down their throats.

Everyone who reads this: He&#039;s trying to prove a point and educate you. We were meant to drink cow&#039;s milk; a baby calf was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. People do get upset when they learn the truth, don&#8217;t they? I&#8217;m sorry that cow&#8217;s milk was meant for it&#8217;s young, not people! Might as well breast feed your child all their life instead of giving them that crap.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you Prof Keith. I can&#8217;t believe people are looking for the cold, straight facts and are bitching about it! They are the ones who searched it up; you didn&#8217;t force the information down their throats.</p>
<p>Everyone who reads this: He&#8217;s trying to prove a point and educate you. We were meant to drink cow&#8217;s milk; a baby calf was.</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting, even among the &quot;alternative&quot; set, emotions run high regarding milk.
I&#039;ve found that raw, grass fed milk has provided wonderful benefits for my family.
Personally, I never drink the stuff-never have-even as a child. Ultimately, what supports your health and well-being is what you should adhere to. Everyone is different, and has different responses to everything in our physical realm. We each need to investigate on our own and make choices and decisions based upon that research.
I always have a trial period for anything new that seems to be beneficial. Sometimes my kids are my lab rats :-), as was the case with olive leaf extract (not to worry, the lab-rat child was actually over 18). Or my husband, as with the raw milk. 
I do not take anyone&#039;s word for things until I&#039;ve tried it myself. Everyone has an agenda of some sort, so we need to take responsibility for ourselves, using our gifts of intelligence and reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, even among the &#8220;alternative&#8221; set, emotions run high regarding milk.<br />
I&#8217;ve found that raw, grass fed milk has provided wonderful benefits for my family.<br />
Personally, I never drink the stuff-never have-even as a child. Ultimately, what supports your health and well-being is what you should adhere to. Everyone is different, and has different responses to everything in our physical realm. We each need to investigate on our own and make choices and decisions based upon that research.<br />
I always have a trial period for anything new that seems to be beneficial. Sometimes my kids are my lab rats :-), as was the case with olive leaf extract (not to worry, the lab-rat child was actually over 18). Or my husband, as with the raw milk.<br />
I do not take anyone&#8217;s word for things until I&#8217;ve tried it myself. Everyone has an agenda of some sort, so we need to take responsibility for ourselves, using our gifts of intelligence and reason.</p>
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		By: Denise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12267&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly!  That is what we get too and I pay $9/gallon for it, because it&#039;s illegal here.  In PA I paid $2/gallon! 

Also, in the article he posted, it referenced that animals stop drinking milk when weaned.  The reason for that is that they are animals.  They do not have the intelligence to milk an animal, churn butter, or make cheese.  We do and the reason is God gave us the intelligence to do so!

Thank you, Robin!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12267">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly!  That is what we get too and I pay $9/gallon for it, because it&#8217;s illegal here.  In PA I paid $2/gallon! </p>
<p>Also, in the article he posted, it referenced that animals stop drinking milk when weaned.  The reason for that is that they are animals.  They do not have the intelligence to milk an animal, churn butter, or make cheese.  We do and the reason is God gave us the intelligence to do so!</p>
<p>Thank you, Robin!!!</p>
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		By: lee kramer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12226&quot;&gt;Mary McDowell&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Mary,

How about &quot;hypertension&quot; instead of &quot;HIGH blood pressure&quot;??]]></description>
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<p>Hey Mary,</p>
<p>How about &#8220;hypertension&#8221; instead of &#8220;HIGH blood pressure&#8221;??</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree Denise, that raw milk is a totally different food than the store-bought, pasteurized/homogenized toxic swill that passes for milk.
However, I would like to point out one very important point regarding raw milk.
Beside knowing your source/farmer, the milk must come from cows raised on pasuture, and 100% grass-fed. Organic is secondary if the cows are 100% grass-fed.
I too have seen amazing results from using raw milk with my family.

My husband suffered from migraine headaches his entire life. He did eventually connect his migraines to milk-pasturized/homogenized. He stopped drinking milk, and his migraines stopped.

When I began buying 100% grass fed, raw milk, I suggested to him he might tolerate it. He tried it, and now can drink milk (grass-fed/raw) with no migraines.
However, the pasturized milk still causes him migraines, as he found out when he was eating a large amount of ice cream (right after he quit smoking). 

My whole family loves the grass-fed, raw milk I purchase. I drive 2 hours every 2 weeks to purchase raw milk from an Amish farm (licensed raw milk supplier). The milk is pure, fresh, and I see the cows where my milk comes from as I drive onto the farm. I feel so very fortunate to have found this source. Not all are so lucky. So, if one cannot get 100% grass-fed, pasture raised raw milk from clean, family farms, then avoid the white liquid that passes for milk in our country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Denise, that raw milk is a totally different food than the store-bought, pasteurized/homogenized toxic swill that passes for milk.<br />
However, I would like to point out one very important point regarding raw milk.<br />
Beside knowing your source/farmer, the milk must come from cows raised on pasuture, and 100% grass-fed. Organic is secondary if the cows are 100% grass-fed.<br />
I too have seen amazing results from using raw milk with my family.</p>
<p>My husband suffered from migraine headaches his entire life. He did eventually connect his migraines to milk-pasturized/homogenized. He stopped drinking milk, and his migraines stopped.</p>
<p>When I began buying 100% grass fed, raw milk, I suggested to him he might tolerate it. He tried it, and now can drink milk (grass-fed/raw) with no migraines.<br />
However, the pasturized milk still causes him migraines, as he found out when he was eating a large amount of ice cream (right after he quit smoking). </p>
<p>My whole family loves the grass-fed, raw milk I purchase. I drive 2 hours every 2 weeks to purchase raw milk from an Amish farm (licensed raw milk supplier). The milk is pure, fresh, and I see the cows where my milk comes from as I drive onto the farm. I feel so very fortunate to have found this source. Not all are so lucky. So, if one cannot get 100% grass-fed, pasture raised raw milk from clean, family farms, then avoid the white liquid that passes for milk in our country.</p>
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		By: Denise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12236&quot;&gt;ProfKeith&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;A study from UCLA showed that over a third of
all cases of salmonella infection in California, 1980-1983
were traced to raw milk.&quot;

This is a lie and many other statements in that article have been soundly refuted.  They are simply not true, based on CDC records.  Most illness from milk in the last 15-20 years has come from pasteurized homogenized milk.  
This article is so full of flaws it is unbelievable.  

The practical outworking is that CA, where raw milk is consumed in greater quantities than in any other state, cannot produce one incident where raw milk caused illness.  Gumpert, in his book , had painstakingly traced the few incidents where it was suspected and found no proof.

Should we ban cantaloupes because of the people who have died recently?  Deli meats and salad mixes have caused far more illnesses and death than many other foods.  Why are they not villified and banned like raw milk is?

Bottom line, people who drink clean raw milk know that it is wonderful and it does not get them sick. 

That article mentions - and yes, I did read it - the leukemia virus being found in 3 of 5 cows.  Why is there not ONE documentation of a person getting that form of leukemia from raw milk.  I couldn&#039;t find one ANYWHERE!

At least admit there is a huge difference between clean raw milk and antibiotic and pus laden, pasteurized and homogenized, store bought milk.

I&#039;m DONE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12236">ProfKeith</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;A study from UCLA showed that over a third of<br />
all cases of salmonella infection in California, 1980-1983<br />
were traced to raw milk.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a lie and many other statements in that article have been soundly refuted.  They are simply not true, based on CDC records.  Most illness from milk in the last 15-20 years has come from pasteurized homogenized milk.<br />
This article is so full of flaws it is unbelievable.  </p>
<p>The practical outworking is that CA, where raw milk is consumed in greater quantities than in any other state, cannot produce one incident where raw milk caused illness.  Gumpert, in his book , had painstakingly traced the few incidents where it was suspected and found no proof.</p>
<p>Should we ban cantaloupes because of the people who have died recently?  Deli meats and salad mixes have caused far more illnesses and death than many other foods.  Why are they not villified and banned like raw milk is?</p>
<p>Bottom line, people who drink clean raw milk know that it is wonderful and it does not get them sick. </p>
<p>That article mentions &#8211; and yes, I did read it &#8211; the leukemia virus being found in 3 of 5 cows.  Why is there not ONE documentation of a person getting that form of leukemia from raw milk.  I couldn&#8217;t find one ANYWHERE!</p>
<p>At least admit there is a huge difference between clean raw milk and antibiotic and pus laden, pasteurized and homogenized, store bought milk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m DONE!</p>
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		By: Denise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12236&quot;&gt;ProfKeith&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s disrespectful to encourage someone to get informed?  Please forgive me.  And I am not talking about organic milk.  Organic milk is ultra-pasteurized and homogenized.  It is a dead food.  There is no comparison.

Raw milk nourished the world - and still does most of the world - for thousands of years.  All your clinical research experience can&#039;t refute that.  Book after book details thousands of people clearing up serious health problems after switching to raw milk.  I just came off of six months on raw milk and kombucha tea.  Lost 25 pounds, BP down to 130/80 from 160/110, pain gone, energy great.  How can something that is so bad get those results?

Not everyone can tolerate milk.  But MANY more people can thrive on raw milk that cannot drink store milk because it is so bad.  I would encourage you to do your OWN research and not just rely on what you have read.  Any scientist or doctor who pushes drugs and surgery can lay claim to many years of &quot;experience.&quot;  But do they get results?

There is a reason Mercola has the #1 health site in the world.  He gets results.  A discussion like this on his site would have already brought in hundreds of responses.  Another name you might want to note - Sally Fallon.  A Campaign for Real Milk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12236">ProfKeith</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s disrespectful to encourage someone to get informed?  Please forgive me.  And I am not talking about organic milk.  Organic milk is ultra-pasteurized and homogenized.  It is a dead food.  There is no comparison.</p>
<p>Raw milk nourished the world &#8211; and still does most of the world &#8211; for thousands of years.  All your clinical research experience can&#8217;t refute that.  Book after book details thousands of people clearing up serious health problems after switching to raw milk.  I just came off of six months on raw milk and kombucha tea.  Lost 25 pounds, BP down to 130/80 from 160/110, pain gone, energy great.  How can something that is so bad get those results?</p>
<p>Not everyone can tolerate milk.  But MANY more people can thrive on raw milk that cannot drink store milk because it is so bad.  I would encourage you to do your OWN research and not just rely on what you have read.  Any scientist or doctor who pushes drugs and surgery can lay claim to many years of &#8220;experience.&#8221;  But do they get results?</p>
<p>There is a reason Mercola has the #1 health site in the world.  He gets results.  A discussion like this on his site would have already brought in hundreds of responses.  Another name you might want to note &#8211; Sally Fallon.  A Campaign for Real Milk.</p>
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		By: ProfKeith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12230&quot;&gt;Denise&lt;/a&gt;.

Anyone reading who wants more FACTS, not propaganda, should visit this page at least:
http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12230">Denise</a>.</p>
<p>Anyone reading who wants more FACTS, not propaganda, should visit this page at least:<br />
<a href="http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.notmilk.com/kradjian.html</a></p>
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		By: ProfKeith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12230&quot;&gt;Denise&lt;/a&gt;.

Not very respectful Denise.
Also, you are venting your own propaganda, not fact.
I have over 30 years clinical experience and know that even organic milk makes a LOT of people ill.
You are just going along with the popular culture, propagated by Joe Mercola and others.
I know the value of farm milk in the old days, I wrote about it here in &quot;How To Survive In A World Without Antibiotics&quot; (Stolle milk, Google it).
I am not talking about the fats and heart disease story; you brought that up.
I&#039;m talk about the allergy and intolerance reaction.
You might get better educated if you visit the site http://www.notmilk.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alternative-doctor.com/really-stupid-science-i-mean-really/#comment-12230">Denise</a>.</p>
<p>Not very respectful Denise.<br />
Also, you are venting your own propaganda, not fact.<br />
I have over 30 years clinical experience and know that even organic milk makes a LOT of people ill.<br />
You are just going along with the popular culture, propagated by Joe Mercola and others.<br />
I know the value of farm milk in the old days, I wrote about it here in &#8220;How To Survive In A World Without Antibiotics&#8221; (Stolle milk, Google it).<br />
I am not talking about the fats and heart disease story; you brought that up.<br />
I&#8217;m talk about the allergy and intolerance reaction.<br />
You might get better educated if you visit the site <a href="http://www.notmilk.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.notmilk.com</a></p>
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